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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 1:28:50 GMT
Salve a tutti, sono italiano (quindi perdonate il mio inglese tradotto da google  )e finalmente mi sono deciso ad iniziare questa avventurta. Ho ordinato la mitica AMC1280USB ed ora sto studiando un po' più e ho iniziato a fare un disegno del mio progetto. Non ho trovato documenti validi su cui studiare per le migliori proporzioni da utilizzare e quindi ho cercato di fare un disegno ad occhio. Per i motori vorrei utilizzare motori da 0,55 Kw per non superare l' assorbimento di 3,3 Kw complessivo ma se pensate sia il caso posso rischiare con quelli da 0,75 Kw Spero che qualcuno di voi molto più esperti di me mi dia un consiglio sulle misure che ho utilizzato così se ho fatto qualche errore lo correggo immediatamente. grazie in anticipo Hi everyone, I'm Italian (so forgive my English translated by google ) and I finally decided to start this adventure. I ordered the AMC1280USB and now I'm studying a little more and I started to make a drawing of my project. I could not find valid documents for studing for the best proportions for use and so I tried to make a design for the eye. I would use engines from 0.55 Kw Motors not to exceed the total 3.3 Kw absorption but if you think it is appropriate I can take chances with those from 0.75 Kw I hope any of you much more experienced than me give me a piece of advice on the measures that I have used so if I did something wrong do I fix immediately. thanks in advance    |
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Post by tronicgr on Dec 14, 2014 5:21:55 GMT
Hi Fabio, welcome. We will help you through the process of this project. First thing I notice on your design is that its better to have the arms of the gearboxes pointing inward instead of outward you have them now. This will make the platform more stable and perhaps lower center point. I'll try to explain better the next days from my laptop. Thanks Thanos BTW your order is scheduled to be shipped next Saturday, if there is no delays for some parts that are on their way...  |
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Post by mhensen on Dec 14, 2014 10:51:16 GMT
As I have ordered the AMC1280USB too,I'll be following this thread. Would love to see all steps and designs and their pro and cons .. Just to learn on how to get started and move to a full fledge 6dof platform.. billo2404: At least you are further then me. I even haven't thought about design yet.. Would love to hear and see why certain designs are better or worse, what effect arm length has, what power AC, etc.. I guess there is quite a lot to take in before you have yourself a smooth working platform With kind regards, Michael Hensen |
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Post by stevant on Dec 14, 2014 14:11:19 GMT
Please take a look at my build if you like. It's in the User Projects forum under 6DOF Platform. (stevant) If there are any dimensions that you are looking for, please let me know. Thanos and the group were very helpful to me and I would be more than happy to share what information I have, now that I am done. ( never really done, always something to add!!).
Sincerely,
Steve
P.S.- If you go to Thano's website and look under Fabi's blog, you will see photos with measurements he was kind enough to share. I used those dimensions myself which I feel worked out great. There is enough there to layout your platform. If you have any questions I can take additional photos of my platform to clarify any concerns or measurements if needed. Good Luck and stay positive, this is worth the effort!!!!!
Steve
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 20:30:31 GMT
Hi Fabio, welcome. We will help you through the process of this project. First thing I notice on your design is that its better to have the arms of the gearboxes pointing inward instead of outward you have them now. This will make the platform more stable and perhaps lower center point. I'll try to explain better the next days from my laptop. Thanks Thanos BTW your order is scheduled to be shipped next Saturday, if there is no delays for some parts that are on their way... Thanks Thanos for the speed, I never said that the arms inward were best of the arms pointed outwards, but surely you know much more than me so I'm curious to learn and delve into this topic. For now between the various moving visas simulators (like Stevant) I appreciated much more than those with arms outwards while seeing others always insisted a little dissatisfied. It's probably just my belief then I'll wait your experience before making new edits  thanks for the update on my card ... can't wait to have the device in hand |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 20:32:49 GMT
As I have ordered the AMC1280USB too,I'll be following this thread. Would love to see all steps and designs and their pro and cons .. Just to learn on how to get started and move to a full fledge 6dof platform.. billo2404: At least you are further then me. I even haven't thought about design yet.. Would love to hear and see why certain designs are better or worse, what effect arm length has, what power AC, etc.. I guess there is quite a lot to take in before you have yourself a smooth working platform With kind regards, Michael Hensen will certainly be a pleasure to develop and deepen together the project ... here in Italy we say that four eyes see more than two   |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 20:44:53 GMT
Please take a look at my build if you like. It's in the User Projects forum under 6DOF Platform. (stevant) If there are any dimensions that you are looking for, please let me know. Thanos and the group were very helpful to me and I would be more than happy to share what information I have, now that I am done. ( never really done, always something to add!!). Sincerely, Steve P.S.- If you go to Thano's website and look under Fabi's blog, you will see photos with measurements he was kind enough to share. I used those dimensions myself which I feel worked out great. There is enough there to layout your platform. If you have any questions I can take additional photos of my platform to clarify any concerns or measurements if needed. Good Luck and stay positive, this is worth the effort!!!!! Steve are not passed yet to congratulate you because I still haven't finished reading all your discussion but yours is one of 6dof I like and inspire me the most. Also the video in motion is the demonstration that all effects (maybe it is also thanks to the great development of profiles) make fine. For me it is a great help to know we can count on a project well done as yours, thank you very much. I must also point out that I really like if only for aesthetic effect all pods that you made to your sim Now before you get yourself unnecessary questions I read well your tread and vedero to fabi that recommended me then if I miss some information then I will bother you. Thanks again shifting availability |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 20:59:53 GMT
Ora ho una domanda piuttosto urgente da farvi a proposito degli inverter: cercando e cercando nel web sono riuscito a trovare una rimanenza di magazzino di 6 inverter nuovi ad un prezzo ridicolo: 80 euro a pezzo, 480 totale. Per quanto ho potuto studiare penso di poter dire che questo modello va benissimo per me, ma mi farebbe dormire più tranquillamente una conferma da parte vostra. Il modello in questione è questo: OMRON 3G3MV-A2007 220V 0,75KW la scheda tecnica è troppo grande per essere allegata ma è facile trovarla su google Mi sono già accordato con il venditore ma vorrei una vostra conferma prima di fare il bonifico...non si sa mai Now I have a question rather urgent to introduce about the inverter: looking and looking on the web I managed to find a remainder of 6 inverter new warehouse at a ridiculous price: 80 euros per piece, total 480. As far as I could study I think I can say that this model is fine for me, but I would sleep more quietly a confirmation from you. The model in question is this: OMRON 3G3MV-220V 0 A2007 75KW the sheet is too large to be attached but it is easy to find on google I have already agreed with the seller but I would like a confirmation before making wire ... you never know |
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Post by tronicgr on Dec 14, 2014 22:11:31 GMT
Ora ho una domanda piuttosto urgente da farvi a proposito degli inverter: cercando e cercando nel web sono riuscito a trovare una rimanenza di magazzino di 6 inverter nuovi ad un prezzo ridicolo: 80 euro a pezzo, 480 totale. Per quanto ho potuto studiare penso di poter dire che questo modello va benissimo per me, ma mi farebbe dormire più tranquillamente una conferma da parte vostra. Il modello in questione è questo: OMRON 3G3MV-A2007 220V 0,75KW la scheda tecnica è troppo grande per essere allegata ma è facile trovarla su google Mi sono già accordato con il venditore ma vorrei una vostra conferma prima di fare il bonifico...non si sa mai Now I have a question rather urgent to introduce about the inverter: looking and looking on the web I managed to find a remainder of 6 inverter new warehouse at a ridiculous price: 80 euros per piece, total 480. As far as I could study I think I can say that this model is fine for me, but I would sleep more quietly a confirmation from you. The model in question is this: OMRON 3G3MV-220V 0 A2007 75KW the sheet is too large to be attached but it is easy to find on google I have already agreed with the seller but I would like a confirmation before making wire ... you never know Yes this can be used. Checked the datasheet. Just make sure before connect them to set: Sw2 to GND (source mode) as in factory setting comes as switched to +24v (sink mode). Sw1 to V. (Voltage analog input) |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 23:00:43 GMT
Grazie tronicgr, non sai che peso mi hai tolto, ora posso andare a dormire tranquillo che qui è quasi mezzanotte Per i collegamenti non ho capito molto ma l' importante è che si possano utilizzare, quando sarà il momento e li avrò in mano vedrò di capire meglio. Domani vado a fare il bonifico felice P.S.: Ho appena guardato meglio il tread di stevant e ho notato che anche lui ha i bracci verso l'interno quindi modificherò sicuramente il progetto...ora dovrò capire l' angolo consigliato in posizione centrale (50%) ma per questo abbiamo tutto il tempo. Thanks tronicgr, you don't know that I've lifted weights, now I can go to sleep comfortable that here it is almost midnight for the links I did not understand much but the important thing is that you can use when the time comes and I have them in hand I will understand better. Tomorrow I am going to make the Bank happy P.S.: I just looked at the tread of stevant and noticed that he also has the arms inward and then edit the project ... now I'll have to figure out the angle recommended in center position (50%) but for this we all the time. |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 14, 2014 23:29:10 GMT
Nel frattempo non ho saputo resistere e ho modificato il disegno anche se la posizione dei motori al 50% non mi convince, probabilmente sto sbagliando qualcosa. Intanto ho impostato un angolazione di 30° con sim al 50% ecco il risultato Meanwhile I have not been able to resist and I modified the drawing even if the position of the motors at 50% does not convince me, probably I'm missing something. Meanwhile, I set a 30° angle with the sim co 50% the result  |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 16, 2014 2:36:34 GMT
..... P.S.- If you go to Thano's website and look under Fabi's blog, you will see photos with measurements he was kind enough to share. I used those dimensions myself which I feel worked out great. There is enough there to layout your platform. If you have any questions I can take additional photos of my platform to clarify any concerns or measurements if needed. Good Luck and stay positive, this is worth the effort!!!!! Steve Grazie del consiglio. Ho dato un occhiata e le misure non sono tante però è un buon punto di partenza. Ho modificato il disegno con le misure prese dal progetto di Fabi come mi hai consigliato e ecco cosa ne è uscito fuori. Se non ti disturbo troppo vorrei chiederti di dare un occhiata alle misure varie del mio disegno per vedere se combaciano con le tue visto che il movimento del tuo sim mi piace molto. Sarebbe ottimo poter partire con un progetto che ha le tue identiche misure e caratteristiche per ottenere il tuo stesso risultato P.S: anche tu come Fabi usi motori da 0.75 kw e motoriduttore 70:1? Thanks for the advice.I gave him a look and measures are not many but it is a good place to start.I modified the design with the measures taken by Fabi's project as I have advised and here is what came out. If it doesn't bother you too much I'd like to ask you to take a look at various measures of my drawing to see if you match with your saw that the movement of your sim card I really like. It would be great to start with a project that has your identical sizes and features to get your same result. P.S: you like Fabi uses 0.75 kw motors and geared motors 70: 1?    continua nel prossimo post... continued in next post ... |
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 16, 2014 2:38:28 GMT
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Post by stevant on Dec 16, 2014 16:28:58 GMT
I printed your drawings above and will measure my platform and place my numbers next to yours in the drawing and scan and attach so you can compare.....ok?
I am using 1hp motors with 60:1 gear reduction gearboxes.
Stampato i disegni sopra e misurerà mia piattaforma e luogo mio numeri accanto al vostro nel disegno e scansione e fissare in modo da poter confrontare... ok?
Sto usando motori 1hp con 60:1 ingranaggi riduttori.
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Post by billo2404 on Dec 16, 2014 22:54:39 GMT
Grazie stevant per questo grande aiuto. è bello vedere come in questo piccolo forum ci sia lo spirito e la voglia di aiutare gli altri, non come succede da altre parti dove la gente pensa al suo progetto, lo finisce e poi sparisce. Stevant, sei un esempio di come ci si dovrebbe comportare in un forum dove tutti sono accumunati da questa passione. Sperò un giorno di poter essere anch' io di aiuto a qualcuno che voglia realizzare un sim come il nostro. Per ora aspetto di verificare le misure e poi finalmente si passa alla pratica Thanks for this great help stevant. it's nice to see how this small forum there is a spirit and desire to help others, not as happens elsewhere where people think of his project, the ends and then disappears. Stevant, you are an example of how you should behave in a forum where all are toghether by this passion. He hoped one day to be too helpful to someone who wants to make a sim like ours. For now look to verify measurements and then finally moves to the practice |
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