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Post by hexpod on Aug 29, 2018 22:25:17 GMT
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tony
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Post by tony on Aug 30, 2018 14:19:16 GMT
Hi , Just a report with my last test : -used the Thanos fw 3.0 rev2a link www.dropbox.com/s/m6lptunco0nl1v3/enc_6dof_AMC1280USB_v3.0_rev2a.hex?dl=0-used with xsim the 6dof plugin of hexpod working with Thanos amc fw 3.0 SETUP AMC : - ser. Feedback OFF INSTEAD Motion Data only . - serial ID FF FF (new ) With this setup all works perfectlly as best as fw 2.2 or 2.4 NO KICKS !! Thanks Vic, thanks so much for your input. With BFF nothing seems to work with V3 rev2a for me. Then, all of a sudden, everything takes off and you have to EStop. To make sure I understand, Vic, you are selecting Ser Feedback Off. You are not using "Motion Data Only". Is that correct. I have not tried the Hexpod curve fitting yet. I have no clue as to what any of it means:>( Thanks again for your awesome responses.
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Post by tony on Aug 30, 2018 14:33:49 GMT
Trip, Did you try the USO 16-Bit "Ser Feedback Off"? Our random kick in maneuvers is still there with a heavy load. Take the load off and they go away....So I am back thinking it is a torque limiting or software/firmware problem. Also, what kind of filter did you put on your potentiometers? Please update to the 3.0 rev.2a The new ID should help to eradicate some data transmission issues. Don't forget to Update SimTools/X-Sim heXpod IK plugin: heXpod.xyzWhile using BFF follow this update: Here’s a modified version of the fast curve fitting app which runs automatically when BIN2TH is set as the output mode. www.dropbox.com/s/658282394jh4i9a/BFF_6DOF_Background_v100.zip?dl=0 In this version however the two qualifier bytes can be set in the BINTH.ini file. Copy the exe and the ini file to your 6 DOF motion software folder – can be applied to any of the sim versions so is available for all now. So the procedure would be.. 1. Keep BIN2TH as the output mode in the .bff config file – this ensures the curve fitting app runs. 2. In the BINTH.ini file set the parameters Qualifier1 & 2 =255 to set 255 as the new qualifier bytes. 3. Set the other parameters as required (eg Delay to set packet output frequency, Use_Raw to switch the curve fitting on or off etc) 4. Run the software as normal. The new exe will run as before but now convert the old AB data to 255 255 (or any two bytes you set it to) Wow Hexpod, Thanks so much for your efforts. They are much appreciated. I have not set this up yet. I did try BFF before bed and nothing seemed to work with V3 rev2a. I wonder if I need to set up the curve fitting before BFF will work? Is this how BFF worked before, we just didn't notice the curve fitting, qualifier bytes, etc? Thanks again for your awesome efforts! 9/2/18: Tried the new V3 rev2a with Xplane and BFF using the procedure above from Hexpod. It seems to work but the smoothness is gone. The random kicks are still there. The kicks seem very severe. Slower motor and reduce (P) doesn't seem to help. With all this Bin2th and Bool, I am at a loss.
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Post by vicpopo on Aug 30, 2018 16:00:30 GMT
Hi , Just a report with my last test : -used the Thanos fw 3.0 rev2a link www.dropbox.com/s/m6lptunco0nl1v3/enc_6dof_AMC1280USB_v3.0_rev2a.hex?dl=0-used with xsim the 6dof plugin of hexpod working with Thanos amc fw 3.0 SETUP AMC : - ser. Feedback OFF INSTEAD Motion Data only . - serial ID FF FF (new ) With this setup all works perfectlly as best as fw 2.2 or 2.4 NO KICKS !! Thanks Vic, thanks so much for your input. With BFF nothing seems to work with V3 rev2a for me. Then, all of a sudden, everything takes off and you have to EStop. To make sure I understand, Vic, you are selecting Ser Feedback Off. You are not using "Motion Data Only". Is that correct. I have not tried the Hexpod curve fitting yet. I have no clue as to what any of it means:>( Thanks again for your awesome responses. Correct into amc menu select ser feedback Off and don't forget FF FF Serial ID ( not old 41 42 ) .with xsim only new serial ID FF FF works ! For bff can't answer but hexpod gave a setup. just a tip for'testing . For the first time test put on line speed motor to 20% or less in amc menu .In case off emergency you maybe have some time to switch off !! if for the first test it's ok you can put full speed againe.
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Post by riton39 on Aug 30, 2018 16:17:20 GMT
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Post by billo2404 on Sept 4, 2018 7:27:24 GMT
Hi guys, I finally put the 6dof on my feet after several improvements I made. Now I would like to try the latest firmware but I see a bit 'of confusion. Is it clear which version has solved the problems? rev1c or rev2a? I have the old amc green, are there any compatibility issues with it?
Salve ragazzi, finalmente ho rimesso in piedi il 6dof dopo varie migliorie che ho apportato. Ora vorrei provare l' ultimo firmware ma vedo un po' di confusione. Si sa con chiarezza quale versione ha risolto i problemi? rev1c o rev2a? ho la vecchia amc verde, ci sono problemi di compatibilità con essa?
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Post by vicpopo on Sept 4, 2018 19:55:46 GMT
Hi guys, I finally put the 6dof on my feet after several improvements I made. Now I would like to try the latest firmware but I see a bit 'of confusion. Is it clear which version has solved the problems? rev1c or rev2a? I have the old amc green, are there any compatibility issues with it? Salve ragazzi, finalmente ho rimesso in piedi il 6dof dopo varie migliorie che ho apportato. Ora vorrei provare l' ultimo firmware ma vedo un po' di confusione. Si sa con chiarezza quale versione ha risolto i problemi? rev1c o rev2a? ho la vecchia amc verde, ci sono problemi di compatibilità con essa? Hi Billo, in this thread there isn't any confusion ;-) .You have to take the rev2a ! amc setup as I wrote in a previous post. the confusion is just that Thanos left on his website the rev1c as last fw update.Trust please the information from this thread. I'm not responsible for the amc after sales communication ;-) i just test and report and share the information trying to help members of the community ;-)
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Post by billo2404 on Sept 5, 2018 20:00:22 GMT
Ciao Vic, Grazie per il chiarimento. Ora ho istallato la rev2a, messo l' ID 41-42 e acquistato l' exapod plugin Purtroppo qualcosa non quadra, i motori continuano a girare senza senso e l'exapod solo una volta ha riconosciuto la com giusta dove è collegata la amc. Ho provato a cambiare tipo di sensori ma senza risultati. Commetto qualche errore?
Hi Vic, Thanks for the clarification. Now I installed the rev2a, put the ID 41-42 and purchased the exapod plugin Unfortunately, something does not square, the engines continue to turn nonsense and the exapod only once recognized the right com where the amc is connected. I tried to change type of sensors but without results. Do I make any mistakes?
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Post by hexpod on Sept 5, 2018 20:54:13 GMT
Ciao Vic, Grazie per il chiarimento. Ora ho istallato la rev2a, messo l' ID 41-42 e acquistato l' exapod plugin Purtroppo qualcosa non quadra, i motori continuano a girare senza senso e l'exapod solo una volta ha riconosciuto la com giusta dove è collegata la amc. Ho provato a cambiare tipo di sensori ma senza risultati. Commetto qualche errore? Hi Vic, Thanks for the clarification. Now I installed the rev2a, put the ID 41-42 and purchased the exapod plugin Unfortunately, something does not square, the engines continue to turn nonsense and the exapod only once recognized the right com where the amc is connected. I tried to change type of sensors but without results. Do I make any mistakes? Hi,
The new firmware ID for lastest hexpod version is FF and NOT the 41-42.
Cheers
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Post by billo2404 on Sept 5, 2018 21:47:36 GMT
thanks hexpod, finally the card responds to commands, I noticed that it works even when COM3 is detected while in reality it is on COM5. This is normal? Now I think I need to set the correct parameters for the sensors and for the output but I do not remember how they were before. I tried to refeshare the firmware but do not change because the motors continue to make small oscillations without ever stopping. Can you help me? As potentiometers I have the classic black 180 ° taken from thanos together with the AMC and as an inverter I use the OMRON
grazie hexpod, finalmente la scheda risponde ai comandi, ho notato che funziona anche quando viene rilevata COM3 mentre in realta è su COM5. Questo è normale? Ora credo di dover settare i parametri corretti per i sensori e per l'output ma non ricordo come erano prima. Ho provato a rifleshare il firmware ma non cambiano perche i motori continuano a fare delle piccole oscillazioni senza mai fermarsi. Sapete aiutarmi? Come potenziometri ho i classici neri 180° presi da thanos insieme alla AMC e come inverter uso gli OMRON
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Post by hexpod on Sept 6, 2018 0:08:02 GMT
thanks hexpod, finally the card responds to commands, I noticed that it works even when COM3 is detected while in reality it is on COM5. This is normal? Now I think I need to set the correct parameters for the sensors and for the output but I do not remember how they were before. I tried to refeshare the firmware but do not change because the motors continue to make small oscillations without ever stopping. Can you help me? As potentiometers I have the classic black 180 ° taken from thanos together with the AMC and as an inverter I use the OMRON grazie hexpod, finalmente la scheda risponde ai comandi, ho notato che funziona anche quando viene rilevata COM3 mentre in realta è su COM5. Questo è normale? Ora credo di dover settare i parametri corretti per i sensori e per l'output ma non ricordo come erano prima. Ho provato a rifleshare il firmware ma non cambiano perche i motori continuano a fare delle piccole oscillazioni senza mai fermarsi. Sapete aiutarmi? Come potenziometri ho i classici neri 180° presi da thanos insieme alla AMC e come inverter uso gli OMRON You should keep all your AMC parameters like they were before. Concerning the com port, the heXpod should always hook up to the com port of the AMC. Are you using X-sim version? Do you have any other hardware devices that also use virtual com port? Cheers
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Post by billo2404 on Sept 6, 2018 7:11:05 GMT
another step forward: sensor type : analogic 8 bit 180° output type : analogic 12 bit the movements and directions are correct. The problem is that when the engines reach the point where they should stop they do not stabilize but they make small regular oscillations, about 0.5 sec. Has it ever happened to you?
un altro passo avanti: sensor type : analogic 8 bit 180° output type : analogic 12 bit i movimenti e le direzioni sono corretti. Il problema è che quando i motori raggiungono il punto in cui dovrebbero fermarsi non si stabilizzano ma fanno delle piccole oscillazioni regolari, circa 0,5 sec. Vi è mai capitato?
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Post by billo2404 on Sept 6, 2018 7:38:54 GMT
I solved the bidirectional 8-bit output Everything has stabilized. Now I go ahead with the tests
Ho risolto uscita 8 bit bidirezionale Tutto si è stabilizzato. Ora vado avanti con le prove
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Post by billo2404 on Sept 12, 2018 10:08:00 GMT
I leave my feedback: I did a lot of very fast tests without the workstation mounted above the sim but working without load: Both in X-sim and in simtools the motor 1 starts to oscillate by itself. Are there any news for this problem? I use the rev2a firmware version
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Post by hexpod on Sept 12, 2018 10:22:30 GMT
I leave my feedback: I did a lot of very fast tests without the workstation mounted above the sim but working without load: Both in X-sim and in simtools the motor 1 starts to oscillate by itself. Are there any news for this problem? I use the rev2a firmware version Could you provide a video description of your issue? With and without the heXpod plugin. Thanx
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