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Post by billo2404 on Feb 26, 2015 22:51:17 GMT
Thanks riton, then I will follow this the only thing that I didn't come back is that it seems to me that stevant has used AMC 5 wires from the inverter. I'd use it in this way only 4. it is possible that he has used as links in the second picture?
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Post by billo2404 on Mar 5, 2015 0:56:54 GMT
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Post by stevant on Mar 5, 2015 17:03:17 GMT
Thanks riton, then I will follow this the only thing that I didn't come back is that it seems to me that stevant has used AMC 5 wires from the inverter. I'd use it in this way only 4. it is possible that he has used as links in the second picture? Hi Billo, I originally had 5 wire since I thought I needed the 5th wire for an additional ground but you are correct, you only need 4 wire. Looks great!!!!!!
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Post by vulbas on Mar 13, 2015 21:42:05 GMT
wow very good job
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Post by billo2404 on Mar 25, 2015 15:54:19 GMT
Thanks vulbas, now rest with the news: I finally got the engines then I could pinpoint the lower base at the same time I continued with the switchboard before continuing and completing it would be able to operate at least one engine so I am doing the test.Unfortunately I can not operate the inverter from AMC but also having set vome vectorial inverter motor runs and runs only through the potentiometer of the inverter and not through software. one other thing I don't understand is why having only connected potentiometer # 1 when the motor turns the feedback varies in all 6 sliders on the right? If it can be useful to tell me that I make a little video. Help me I am in your hands
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Post by tronicgr on Mar 25, 2015 19:07:12 GMT
The analog inputs are picking up signal from inputs next to them if you leave them unconnected (floating). You could connect the "S" of each unconnected input to "-" (gnd).
Thanks Thanos
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Post by billo2404 on Mar 26, 2015 0:27:58 GMT
Thanks tronicgr. the important thing is that it is normal. now I am continuing the tests for testing. I'm going crazy with the settings of the inverter, I didn't think it was so hard. now I managed to exclude the potentiometer of omron and anything moves but it doesn't work well. when I run the test from the xsim inverter off the amc works fine. As soon as I turn the inverter on motor moves slowly back and forth but does not respond to the test and your pc ceases to recognize the amc. I also see occasionally from amc flashing a red led under. can you give me a hand with the settings because I'm getting crazy. These are the settings I tried
n002=1 n003=1 n007=? n004=2 n005=1 n050=1 n051=2 There are many others that I haven't figured out how to set
the inverter I use is: OMRON 3G3MV-A2007 the booklet can be found easily on the net but if you want I send you by mail that in English If you need more info please ask and thanks for availability
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Post by billo2404 on Mar 26, 2015 23:49:35 GMT
waiting for your help I try to do some other test. here in the first video here is what happens with the settings listed in the previous post also to pc off.
Here's what happens with the parameter n004=7
as you can see the inverter from sign of life yet I measured with the meter exits and all seems ok. Where I am wrong?
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Post by tronicgr on Mar 28, 2015 1:43:23 GMT
Hmm, can you take a few photos of the AMC1280USB, I can't see the jumper and DIP switches positions on the videos. I'll have a look on the manual for the Omron inverter over the weekend, if riton39 doesn't answer first with his experience in these Omrom inverters. Thanks Thanos
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Post by vulbas on Mar 28, 2015 17:23:32 GMT
Here are the settings of my minij7 omron. the settings are refining;) Now I have J1000. I do not know if it can help you?
1-1 // 26-0.0 // 51-0.0 2-1 // 27-0.0 // 52-0 3-2 // 28-0.0 // 53-0.0 4-0 // 29-6 // 54-0.0 5-0 // 30-100 // 55-0 6-0 // 31-0 // 56-170 7-0 // 32-2.6 // 57-160 8-0 // 33-0 // 58-0.0 9-70 // 34-8 // 59-0 10-200 // 35-0 // 60-160 11-70 // 36-2 // 61-0.1 12-0.1 // 37-5 // 62-0 13-12 // 38-3 // 63-1.0 14-0.1 // 39-6 //64-2.9 15-12 // 40-0 // 65-62 16-0.1 // 41-100 // 66-0.0 17-0.1 // 42-0 // 67-2 18-0.1 // 43-0.10 // 68-0 19-0.1 // 44-0 // 69-0 20-0 // 45-1.00 // 70-0 21-6 // 46-4 // 71-2 22-0.0 // 47-0 // 72-0 23-0.0 //48-0 // 73-10 24-0.0 // 49-0 //74-0 25-0.0 // 50-0 //75-0 // 76-RDY // 77-0 // 78-Uu1 // 79 020
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Post by billo2404 on Mar 28, 2015 23:43:14 GMT
Hmm, can you take a few photos of the AMC1280USB, I can't see the jumper and DIP switches positions on the videos. I'll have a look on the manual for the Omron inverter over the weekend, if riton39 doesn't answer first with his experience in these Omrom inverters. Thanks Thanos Here are some detailed picture, tell me if you need more Thanks vulbas, unfortunately I seem completely different settings, I gave a look at j1000 manual and I understand that it is an inverter V/F. The 3G3MV-A2007 you can use as vector or V/F and I'm trying to configure in vector mode as suggested by Thanos. thanks anyway for trying to can I send manual in English by mail if you want to give it a look. here on the forum I can't attach it
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Post by riton39 on Mar 29, 2015 17:43:02 GMT
you can watch and check the settings with those Vulbas gave you, it's those I had given her. I advise you to look line by line, but the major parameters are frequency min max, then to optimize the speed of the analog input and the acceleration and deceleration time, but it is secondary.
Normally the basic settings allow a standard normal operation
My anlais is very bad and it is very difficult to write in English it takes me a great effort. I understand the sentences correctly moitée
it is as if you were to translate and understand French.
the name of the parameters is the same you just compare what mode it is between the mini J7 and yours
what's your worries concretely?
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Post by billo2404 on Mar 30, 2015 22:27:30 GMT
ITALIANO grazie riton del tuo aiuto. Sicuramente la traduzione dall' italiano al francese è migliore visto che sono due lingue molto simili, quindi per facilitare un po' la comunicazione tradurrò questi post anche in francese così evitiamo incomprensioni: Praticamente se ho ben capito (correggimi se sbaglio) il j7 è un inverter che funziona solo V/F mentre il mio 3G3MV-A2007 funziona sia come V/F che come inverter vettoriale. Questa impostazione dovrebbe essere migliore ma vedendo le impostazioni postate da vulbas e dando un occhiata al manuale del j7 mi sono reso conto che si tratta di due prodotti completamente diversi quindi anche il menù di programmazione non corrisponde minimamente a quello postato da vulbas, che comunque ringrazio per l' aiuto. Ora visto che avete molta più esperienza di me in questo campo vi chiedo di darmi una mano perchè io per quanto abbia letto e riletto non capisco dove è l' errore. come puoi vedere dai miei video il motore non si muove almeno con le impostazioni che ho postato io. sicuramente sbaglio qualcosa ma non so cosa. Purtroppo non sono riuscito a trovare un manuale in francese da inviarti. Ne ho uno inglese e uno in italiano. posso inviartelo via pm così gli puoi dare un' occhiata e mi faresti un gran favore. Per adesso vorrei solo che il motore si muova e si fermi al massimo e al minimo del potenziometro come deve, poi magari perseremo ad affinare le velocita, tempi, eccetera. Confido nel vostro aiuto perchè io non so proprio più dove mettere le mani e non vorrei aver speso 4000 euro per ritrovarmi un mucchio di ferraglia
INGLESE riton thanks your help. The translation from Italian to French is better because they are two very similar languages, thereby facilitating the communication will translate these posts also in French so we avoid misunderstandings: Basically if I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) the j7 is an inverter that works only V/F while my 3G3MV-A2007 works both as a V/F as vectorial inverter. This setting should be better but seeing the settings posted by vulbas and giving a look at j7 manual I realized that these are two completely different products including the programming menu does not correspond at all to the one posted by vulbas, otherwise thank you for the help. Now since you have a lot more experience than me in this field please help me out because I have to read and reread it I do not understand where is the error. as you can see from my videos the motor does not move at least with the settings I've posted I. surely something wrong but don't know what.Unfortunately I couldn't find a manual in French to send you. I have one English and one in Italian I can send it to you via pm method so you can take a look and would you do me a great favour. For now I just wish the engine moves and stops at the maximum and minimum of the potentiometer as is, then maybe perseremo to sharpen speed, timing, etc.I am counting on your help because I do not know more precisely where to put your hands and I wouldn't have spent 4000 euro for discovering a pile of scrap metal
FRANCESE Riton Merci de votre aide. La traduction de l'italien au Français est meilleure parce qu'ils sont deux langues très semblables, ce qui facilite la communication se traduira ces postes aussi en Français, afin de nous éviter les malentendus : fondamentalement si je comprends bien (corrigez-moi si je me trompe) le j7 est un onduleur qui fonctionne seulement V/F, alors que mon 3G3MV-A2007 fonctionne à la fois comme un V/F comme vectorial onduleur. Ce paramètre devrait être mieux, mais étant donné les paramètres Posté par vulbas et donnant un coup d'oeil à j7 manuel, que j'ai réalisé que ce sont deux produits complètement différents, y compris le menu de programmation ne correspond pas du tout à celui Posté par vulbas, sinon Merci pour l'aide. Maintenant puisque vous avez beaucoup plus d'expérience que moi dans ce vous champ m'aider parce que je dois lire et relire que je ne comprends pas où est l'erreur. comme vous pouvez le voir sur mes vidéos que le moteur ne bouge pas au moins avec les paramètres j'ai posté I. sûrement quelque chose de mal, mais ne sais pas quoi. Malheureusement, je ne pouvais pas trouver un manuel en Français pour vous envoyer. J'ai un anglais et un en Italien, je peux l'envoyer à vous via méthode pm donc vous pouvez jeter un oeil et tu ferais de moi une grande faveur. Car maintenant je souhaite juste que le moteur se déplace et s'arrête à maximale et minimale du potentiomètre comme c'est, alors peut-être nous allons d'aiguiser la vitesse, le timing, etc.. Je compte sur votre aide car je ne sais pas plus précisément où mettre vos mains et je n'aurais pas ont dépensé 4000 euros pour découvrir un tas de ferraille
manual OMRON 3G3MV-A2007 english
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Post by Flyhigher on Mar 31, 2015 10:41:06 GMT
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Post by riton39 on Mar 31, 2015 20:51:27 GMT
salut, je vais regarder, j'ai déjà commencé.
mais en premier: le potentiomètre/capteur est bien connecté ? à vérifier le câblage est bon entre le variateur et la carte de Thanos? à vérifier les infos moteur, courant , tension .... sont correctement paramétré dans le variateur ? à vérifier le mode de pilotage avant /arrière du variateur est bon ? n003
ensuite que ce passe t'il quand tu tourne le potentiomètre à la main ? rien? pas de mouvement des moteurs à la mise en marche de la carte de Thanos?
si le câblage est bon , que le moteur est bien paramétré , et que le moteur marche bien ( a t'il été testé manuellement en directe ? ) c'est peut être un soucis de paramètre, mais je pense plus a autre chose ...
câblage , potentiomètre .... je vais vérifier les paramètre avec la liste que tu as sur le post.
hi, I'll watch, I have already begun.
but first: potentiometer / sensor is connected? check the wiring is good between the drive and the map of Thanos? check engine information, current, voltage .... are set correctly in the drive? check the steering forward / reverse drive is good? n003
Then it'll pass it when you turn the knob by hand? nothing? no movement of the motors to the starting map Thanos?
if the wiring is good, the engine is set, and the engine works well (you have been manually tested directly?) it may be a parameter worries, but I think more has something else ...
wiring, potentiometer .... I'll check the parameter with the list you have on the post.
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