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Post by hexpod on May 2, 2017 0:34:11 GMT
You are better off using the UDP output of simtools with the universal UDP input of Ian's BFF motion software... This way you have the many games support of simtools along the precise math calculations of BFF motion software. Thanks Thanos Did somebody linked successfully those two software? (simtools/BFF) Is this possible to output simtools telemetry with the washout filters?
cheers
did somebody tried that? I am curious if it works with simtools2 cheers
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Post by hexpod on May 2, 2017 0:53:19 GMT
And how about using x-sim converter with simtools2 instead of x-sim extractor. Could it be also possible?? cheers
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Post by hexpod on May 7, 2017 14:48:31 GMT
And how about using x-sim converter with simtools2 instead of x-sim extractor. Could it be also possible?? cheers Nobody interested to dig a bit into this topic? Thanos could you leave a small comment please if it make sense. Cheers
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Post by tronicgr on May 8, 2017 3:10:09 GMT
And how about using x-sim converter with simtools2 instead of x-sim extractor. Could it be also possible?? cheers Nobody interested to dig a bit into this topic? Thanos could you leave a small comment please if it make sense. Cheers I don't have all of these different motion software on same computers to try it, but in theory should work if you use same UDP ports to establish connection between them. Not sure if it can be done on same computer for sure.
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 23, 2017 6:28:12 GMT
Hey guys!
I just got my shiny new 2017 Thanos electronics all hooked up but I've got a hiccup. Actuators 4 and 5 are not behaving themselves. Would this possibly be one of those SCN chip things? I'll have to look and see if I can do the SCN test without having to unhook all the wiring, but I guess the main question I'm looking to have answered is if having actuators 4 and 5 malfunctioning but all four others working fine could be due to a bad SCN chip?
All the other actuators are working perfect. Numbers 4 and 5, if I manually rotate the sensors they will spin one way but not the other and are kinda unpredictable in other ways I haven't quite figured out.
I've tried reversing the 1/2 wires from the 6DOF board to the VFD's, but it doesn't fix it.
when I hit the "up" heave button on the AMC number 4 just turns full circles as long as I hold it, and stops whenever I release. Number 5 doesn't move at all.
Any help appreciated!
Trip
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Post by tronicgr on May 23, 2017 11:45:04 GMT
Hey Trip,
Make sure the pontentiometers wiring is correctly connected (+5v , Gnd, Vout).
I'll make a short video with test points and what voltages you suppose to read under test. This will determine if there is wiring issue perhaps.
Thanks Thanos
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 23, 2017 22:15:25 GMT
Thanks Thanos, I'll check it out. They are wired correctly but could be a bad solder joint. I had my wife move the sensors by hand and I saw movement on the AMC display but still worth checking.
Trip
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 24, 2017 5:14:00 GMT
Ok verified my sensors are all wired properly, and pretty confident there is no problem where I soldered to the connector. I think the sensors are working ok but will have to do some further testing. My specific symptoms definitely sound like sensor problems?
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 24, 2017 6:43:37 GMT
Just did an hour or so of testing: (for anyone just catching up now, all actuators are working properly except #4 and #5)
The sensors are definitely working ok, I turned them manually through full travel and the display on the AMC showed the position correctly through the full range on both of the actuators giving trouble.
Next I did the built in test, I did it with the 24V PSU off. In general all digital direction out terminals went from ~0.00v to ~2.29v. The exception was actuator 5, where one of the terminals was getting up to ~2.9v. That's almost half a volt higher than all the others... interesting.
Tonight the symptoms were a little different on #4; with the VFD's powered I get the following behavior when I use the heave test buttons on the AMC:
Actuator #4- When I press "up" number 4 goes all the way up like it should, then oscillates a bit at the top for as long as I hold the button. When I release it, the actuator returns to the middle like it should. When I press the "down" heave test button it goes down like it should, but when I release the button it DOES NOT move back up to mid stroke. It stays all the way down, until I press the "UP" heave test button.
Actuator #5- Actuator #5 stays at the point where the sensor shows minimum signal (1 bar on the AMC display) and does not respond to the test buttons at all. When I manually moved the sensor (with the VFD powered off) to the center position, then turned on the VFD the actuator moved until the AMC display was once again showing just one bar on sensor #5. After that it again would not respond to the test buttons.
Please help! If I don't get to fly my motion sim soon I might die from withdrawal!
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 25, 2017 8:55:39 GMT
Alright, I believe I've narrowed down the possible causes to:
Wires from AMC to VFD Wires from VFD to motor
I think I eliminated all other possible causes. I'm going to now put NEW wiring from the AMC to the VFD on #5 and see what happens.
Trip
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 25, 2017 9:17:46 GMT
Ok, I got #5 fixed. The problem was in the digital direction wires connection at the AMC end where there had been some previous soldering.
I don't understand exactly how there could have been a bad connection there, but I cut off the ends of the wires and stripped some fresh and BOOYAH! It seems to be working fine now.
EDIT: Still having some issues with #4. It works now but when I try to adjust the sensor it's still only willing to turn one way and not the other. Maybe this sensor is going bad? I'll report back after further experimenting and testing.
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 25, 2017 9:48:40 GMT
Update: #4 Still having issues:
When adjusting the sensor the motor will turn only one way.
When operating with on-board AMC test buttons #4 behaves normally on heave up and heave down. On the yaw right test it goes all the way down and stays there, until I hit one of the other test buttons that causes it to move back up.
I've got a pretty good idea on how to find the problem after troubleshooting #5, so I'm pretty confident that given a bit of time I'll be able to sort it out. I'll report back with any progress.
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Post by Trip Rodriguez on May 25, 2017 10:54:59 GMT
Update Actuator #4:
Got it! It's not fixed yet but I know where the problem is. There is really strange cross-talk between sensor #3 and sensor #4. I'm pretty sure this means that there is some contact between #3 and #4 sensors wires where I soldered them to the plug I installed for the AMC.
After just a couple minutes of tinkering with the plug I got it mostly working. There is still a little bit of crosstalk, so maybe I overheated the plug and the pins are making some contact inside. Regardless, I know where the problem is so I'm not too worried about getting it fixed now. =)
Thanks Thanos!
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Post by paulg100 on May 27, 2017 6:32:24 GMT
keep up the good work trip, looking forward to hearing how things move with the new amc and 6dof extension!
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Post by tronicgr on May 27, 2017 14:51:47 GMT
Update Actuator #4: Got it! It's not fixed yet but I know where the problem is. There is really strange cross-talk between sensor #3 and sensor #4. I'm pretty sure this means that there is some contact between #3 and #4 sensors wires where I soldered them to the plug I installed for the AMC. After just a couple minutes of tinkering with the plug I got it mostly working. There is still a little bit of crosstalk, so maybe I overheated the plug and the pins are making some contact inside. Regardless, I know where the problem is so I'm not too worried about getting it fixed now. =) Thanks Thanos! I was going to say to check your wiring. Most of the problems lay in the soldering of the wiring. Perhaps get a better quality soldering iron, flux and leaded solder (does better bonds for DIY). Waiting for videos! Thanks Thanos
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